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Post by chrunch on Sept 24, 2016 0:44:19 GMT -6
Oh, I see. Mik's gone Ray.
Now what?
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Post by Raymond306 on Sept 24, 2016 11:54:38 GMT -6
Gosh, I just don't know. Without someone to provide amusing misinformation, groundless accusation, and illogical interpretation I'm afraid we'll have to go back to logic, facts and realistic observation. Gonna be tough. I think you hit the nail on the head here: You get frustrated because we don't fall for the crap you fling. That is because we have heard it all before. It is the same crap all liberals fling. Start thinking for yourself. Liberal lies like "hands up, don't shoot" don't work with informed people. The key phrases here are "heard it all before" and "informed people." It is ever so much more frustrating to deal with those who not only recognize misstatement ("lie" is such an ugly word, don't you think?) but can accurately point out why it's not true.
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Post by chrunch on Oct 2, 2016 1:23:47 GMT -6
The polls and news, are driving me nuts.
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 2, 2016 12:03:53 GMT -6
I understand completely. My opinion is there are very very few actual journalists around any more, journalists whose instinct and training lead to gathering up facts and presenting them without some hidden agenda driving their behaviors. Today's media (in all their forms) are driven by a need to advance ideological causes and political solutions.
Public opinion polling (I use the term lightly) is merely one arm of this latter day journalism. News organizations decide to create a poll to advance their cause and then "report" on the polling results as if they have discovered some heretofore undiscovered truths. The fact is the poll is reported if, and only if it supports their cause. And if the results don't turn out the way they want, the poll is simply forgotten, ignored, discarded with the trash.
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Post by jab1362 on Oct 2, 2016 12:07:52 GMT -6
What's driving me nuts today is this. Did Trump plant the tax story with the NYT or did they just happen to show up in the mail? If he did its a brilliant move on his part as all they have are state returns not federal. Plus showing a 900 million nol let's him skate on the charge he's paid no taxes in years. The Times even has to admit that it's all legal. Trump now can claim to be no different then the lefts favorite billionaires like Gates and Buffet.
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 2, 2016 12:17:23 GMT -6
Let me ask a question? Who gives a damn? No, really! What do I care WHAT is in Donald Trump's or Hillary Clinton's or anyone else's damned personal income tax returns. I don't. What I want to know is what is the history of their words and deeds, and with whom do they surround themselves.
Have we had a great last 8 years because Barack Obama DID release tax returns? Are the Clinton's to be trusted because they have released a zillion years worth of tax returns. If Donald Trump NEVER releases any tax returns am I suppose to go: "Oh well, I have to vote for Hillary Clinton now!"
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Post by jab1362 on Oct 2, 2016 13:01:58 GMT -6
I agre with you about the tax returns vs the people and deeds they've done. The MSM is going to beat the tax return drum because the low information voter will turn on it. I think he baited the times to diffuse it. He also now gets to hammer away at the Clinton foundation being corrupt. Time is running out for one or the other to deliver the knockout blow.
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Post by chrunch on Oct 4, 2016 15:00:00 GMT -6
It seems the Wikileaks document dump turned out to be a bust.
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 4, 2016 17:02:37 GMT -6
A point that brought up, that I thought about earlier today when the news first came, was how Julian Assange promised to release "election related materials" during the "next 10 weeks." At the time I thought "Excuse me? Our presidential election is 4 weeks from now at which time either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is going to become the the President of the United States. And whatever "election related materials" are release in weeks 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 are going to be just that much irrelevant crap.
There may be something released that causes a bunch of people to go "Damn! I wish I'd known that before I voted." but it's not going to change the election. Of course, Assange may have been including other upcoming elections, some European parliamentary elections, perhaps. Zimbabwe? North Korea? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by jab1362 on Oct 5, 2016 19:31:40 GMT -6
Julian Assange doesn't want to meet Andrew Brietbart just yet.
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 6, 2016 9:54:58 GMT -6
Julian Assange doesn't want to meet Andrew Brietbart just yet. I'd love to know what's behind this story. Is there REALLY a credible threat to the well-being of Julian Assange? And if so, from where does this threat come? Surely -- SURELY not from the Hillary camp.
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Post by chrunch on Oct 8, 2016 2:21:56 GMT -6
Horn dog Trump. Eleven years years ago, Trump was 59 years old, and still grabbing them by the pussy! Go Trump go!
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 8, 2016 9:08:20 GMT -6
Horn dog Trump. Eleven years years ago, Trump was 59 years old, and still grabbing them by the pussy! Go Trump go! Let me see. 20 years ago what was the President of the United States doing? And before that? And before that? And which First Lady worked overtime to destroy the "trailer trash bimbos" and other threats to her husband's and her own political ambitions thereby becoming an enabler of her husbands behavior? Hmmmm, I wonder. And now, the bonus question: How much "reporting" time did the MSM give to this area of the former president's (cough) public life, and how upset were Democrats (in general) and Democrat women (in particular) with the president's "horn-doggery?"
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Post by jab1362 on Oct 8, 2016 18:07:29 GMT -6
Eleven years ago Bill Clinton was flying on the Lolita Express with his buddy Stephen Eptstien. Where is the MSM on this story?
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 9, 2016 9:17:06 GMT -6
Where is the MSM on this story? What I find so interesting is how most of the "Mainstream Media" has been left-leaning for decades. Of course journalists (or at least those who profess to be) have staunchly maintained their impartiality in dealing with political subjects, but this has not been the case. What is so amazing now is that as the media have become more radicalized in their advocacy journalism the bias is undeniably on display for everyone to see, even while the "Chris Matthews" foaming, lunatics profess impartiality, proclaiming to be "moderate" and "middle of the rode." I'm impress with how they can do it with a straight face.
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Post by chrunch on Oct 9, 2016 19:56:12 GMT -6
Trump brought some guests to the debate.
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Post by chrunch on Oct 11, 2016 21:12:01 GMT -6
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 15, 2016 8:58:51 GMT -6
This whole brouhaha over what Donald Trump said in a private conversation among a bunch men is bone-crushingly stupid. With ALL the problems this country faces, with all the threats from without and within THIS is the most important campaign issue to come up? Give me a break!
Of course, it's professional politicians on both sides who maintain the fiction that Donald Trump was saying anything OTHER than what men say in locker rooms around the world or otherwise together in a gaggle. And they are abetted by the DNC's information arm (a.k.a. the Mainstream Media) who continue to keep this fiction of an offense on the front burner as if it really is important.
But as I suggested before, the most disgusting aspect of this whole story isn't what Donald Trump said, but the reaction of high ranking political office holders who dignify the charges by telling everyone how shocked...SHOCKED they are to think anyone, ANYONE could possibly use such language and assuring one and all that THEY would never use such language nor have they EVER heard such horrible, horrible language ever, ever, ever.
WHAT A BUNCH OF GODDAMN PUSSIES!
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Post by chrunch on Oct 20, 2016 1:50:06 GMT -6
Get ready for the onslaught of news reports about Trump not accepting a loss. Power has always been passed from administration to administration without violence. That is part of the miracle of America. It is a constitutional crises!
Does the name Al Gore ring a bell? He thought he was screwed over and he acted on it.
But when Trump leaves the door open for doing the same thing, he is instigating a civil war.
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Post by Raymond306 on Oct 20, 2016 10:33:58 GMT -6
We are surrounded by stupid people. Bone-crushingly, jaw-droppingly, mind-bogglingly STUPID! But you really can't blame them for being flaming ignoramuses. They've been conditioned by the public education system and the praetorian media; intentionally, meticulously, patiently conditioned for decades to be ignorant about anything that would prevent them from being totally dependent upon the Democratic party for their very existence.
I could go on and on and on but I'll simply the matter: Wikileaks/Democrats/document drops/emails (which see)
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Post by chrunch on Oct 24, 2016 0:00:49 GMT -6
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Post by chrunch on Oct 24, 2016 0:07:47 GMT -6
Now this, from those bastards at Anonymous.
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Post by jab1362 on Oct 24, 2016 6:14:19 GMT -6
Cap are you really surprised by anything in Podestas emails? To me it just confirms everything I always suspected that was going on. The only thing that still amazes me is they get to skate on Bengazi.
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Post by chrunch on Nov 2, 2016 22:17:15 GMT -6
I leave town and Trump is losing. Come back home and he is winning.
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Post by Raymond306 on Nov 3, 2016 9:01:52 GMT -6
There are strange things done in the midnight sun By the men who moil for gold; The Arctic trails have their secret tales That would make your blood run cold; The Northern Lights have seen queer sights, But the queerest they ever did see Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge I cremated Sam McGee.*However, I believe the election of 2016 ranks right up there on the Top 5 List of queerest sights. Several years ago I heard the observation made that we could survive a Barrack Obama presidency. However the man who made that observation added, "What I don't think we can survive is the 53% of Americans who voted for him" I think the same thing can be said about this coming election. Today we see in Hillary Clinton, a candidate for the highest office in the land, whose record of criminal corruption and malfeasance in office is simply breath taking. But it's the coverup from the White House, the media, and the Democratic Party apparatchiks that makes Watergate look like a case of the kid who swiped an extra cookie from the cookie jar. I'm not for one moment suggesting the election of Donald Trump would be our salvation from our current problems, merely a small reining in of the lunatic left's efforts to turn a once great nation into a 3rd rate socialist banana republic. A mere bump in the road for the Democrats that might give us time to begin implementing the necessary changes. But should Hillary Clinton end up in the White House on January 20, 2017, then (to paraphrase Tiny Tim) "God help us every one." Yet hope springs eternal... *"The Cremation of Sam McGee" ~ Robert W. Service
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