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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 17, 2016 7:20:44 GMT -6
Good heavens! With less that 3 months until Election Day it looks like maybe, just maybe Donald Trump has decided to start campaigning as if he actually wants to win. On Monday Trump announced his plans to institute "extreme vetting" to determine who gets visas to enter the U.S. and who doesn't. A great many conservatives are cheering that announcement. Perhaps we can turn around the Obama/Clinton plan to flood the country with people who have no damned business being here in the first place. But that's not all. Yesterday Trump ramped up his call for a return of law and order in the streets combining it with an appeal to African American voters: Oh yes! If he keeps up with this targeted campaigning on the important issues Donald Trump can pull this off yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 8:21:07 GMT -6
Except he's presented no clarification on how he will accomplish anything. Also what's the old repub argument about criminals getting guns and bad guys? My question is with all your "extreme vetting", what is forcing these people to be truthful? Water boarding, sleep deprivation, iron maiden?
Also saying trump cares about African Americans, I believe that when me shit turns purple, and smells of rainbow sherbet. Ask a lot of his former tenants how much he cares for miniorities. He was TelePrompTer pandering.
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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 17, 2016 9:15:16 GMT -6
My question is with all your "extreme vetting", what is forcing these people to be truthful? Water boarding, sleep deprivation, iron maiden? Well, as Trump said, the first thing we do is shut down ALL visas and immigration from countries presenting problems for us. You see, it's not OUR "responsibility" to let ANYONE into this country. It's up to those who want to be here to show they deserve to be here. Secondly, you keep your eye on those non-citizens who are already here. Those that start bad-mouthing the United States, calling for violence, or advocating violence against our government or society in general, THOSE people get their visa's revoked and get their asses kicked out. Simple. That's just a start, but figured explaining the philosophy behind what Trump is talking about would prove most educational for you. Also saying trump cares about African Americans, I believe that when me shit turns purple, and smells of rainbow sherbet. Ask a lot of his former tenants how much he cares for miniorities. He was TelePrompTer pandering. Time for more education. It is the Democrat Party that is the party of: - Slavery
- the Confederacy
- the Ku Klux Klan
- Segregation
- Jim Crow laws, and
- Racial cleansing a.k.a. Planned Parenthood (to name a few things)
Who is it who keeps African Americans trapped in no-hope ghettos through the soft-bigotry of low expectation? The Democrats. Who is it that keeps minorities chained to economic slavery through government hand-outs and the dissolution of minority families? The Democrats. And of all the big cities that are drowning in poverty, the cities that have rioting, and "issues" with their police departments and minority communities ALL of them have been run by Democrats for decades. The mayors are Democrats, the city councils are controlled by Democrats as well as all the municipal departments including the Police Departments. So when I hear Hillary Clinton (or any other Democrats) blathering on and on about what THEY are going to do for minorities I have to ask myself, what the hell have you done for them for the last 60 years? NOT A DAMNED THING. And you tell me Donald Trump is pandering?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 10:24:59 GMT -6
You're missing the point none of them care about minorities they never have, that's why it's pandering. The other problem is trumps ideas on Muslim banning is unconstitutional. What is that say in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religion. Not freedom of religion unless you are brown.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 10:25:24 GMT -6
I demand a higher status than contributor, maybe liberal maniac
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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 17, 2016 10:36:03 GMT -6
You're missing the point none of them care about minorities they never have, that's why it's pandering. That's why I said what I said. Oh wait, you were talking about the Democratic Party, right? The other problem is trumps ideas on Muslim banning is unconstitutional. What is that say in the Bill of Rights, freedom of religion. Not freedom of religion unless you are brown. I'll make two simple observations that should help you with the argument. 1) There is nothing in the Constitution requiring anyone to be admitted to United States. What the Constitution does say is that Congress is empowered to decide our immigration policies. Period. 2) The Bill of Rights applies to citizens of the United States. Donald Trump was talking about people who are NOT citizens of the United States. That should clear it all up for you. Now serving, #27
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 10:58:57 GMT -6
What does the Statue of Liberty say on her book? Oh yeah, brown people stay out!
Not, bring me your poor tired wretched masses... MASSES, yearning to be free
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 10:59:53 GMT -6
Teddy Roosevelt would have kicked you in the balls Ray.
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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 17, 2016 11:28:50 GMT -6
What does the Statue of Liberty say on her book? Excuse me? What does a poem written by Emma Lazarus have to do with anything? Here, let me take one more peek at that little ol' Constitution of the United States. Teddy Roosevelt would have kicked you in the balls Ray. Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive asshole, too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 11:34:24 GMT -6
Ray proves me suspicion. A cranky old Caucasian person. Who watches too much bill oriley. 😜
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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 17, 2016 11:38:11 GMT -6
Bill O'Reilly is an asshole, too!
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Post by jab1362 on Aug 17, 2016 17:47:06 GMT -6
Okay Mik, you just need to look back a few years. Didn't prevent Jimmy Carter (D) from banning Muslims from Iran into the USA and cancelling student vista and rounding up people for deportation. The last time this country interned people, just was not Japaneese but Italians and Germans was FDR also a Democrat. You guys love to kill the republicans on civil rights but it's the democrats that own the racial hate in this country. History is a bitch when it's not on your side of the argument. I'm with Ray on this neither one of us is a Trump guy but we have no choice to vote for him. If HRC wins we will be the next Yugoslavia and with that the whole world will be on fire, soon after there will be no safe place. Be careful what you wish for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 17:58:58 GMT -6
Just like Obama has taken all the guns?
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Post by jab1362 on Aug 17, 2016 19:12:47 GMT -6
Really that's all you have as a response. Nobody is going to take away the guns. That's why we will br Yugoslavia on steroids. Must be nice to live in that Liberal bubble.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 22:00:17 GMT -6
If you have looked up facts about trumps past and are ok with him, I'll never convince you otherwise. Drumphf actually wants to use nuks, that means all treatys are off and we get to experience life as water vapor. 👍💥. His inquiries not mine.
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Post by chrunch on Aug 17, 2016 23:18:42 GMT -6
So it seems Trump is preparing to turn this into a full on brawl. He has hired Breitbart News Executive Chairman Stephen K. Bannon. If this guy is anything like Andrew Breitbart, then I am optimistic. Andrew Breitbart had a knack for using facts to destroy liberal arguments. If this man can help Trump keep the facts straight, and keep him away from the likes of Sean Hannity and others on the right that feel the need to exaggerate, then I am hopeful of a good outcome in November. The truth is enough to destroy HRC. Her record and the Democrat party record, if presented truthfully, is all that is required. www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/17/breitbart-news-stephen-k-bannon/I wonder how long it will be before Ray gets another random thought in his head and moves this conversation into a new cleverly, but unintuitively, titled thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 4:56:20 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 6:48:48 GMT -6
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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 18, 2016 10:54:41 GMT -6
I wonder how long it will be before Ray gets another random thought in his head and moves this conversation into a new cleverly, but unintuitively, titled thread. Oh you silly thing, you! Giving a title to threads is an art. The best titles have the reader going, "What the hell is this?!? I better check this out." I'll just leave this here. Brietbart was a fraud. There is a reason he's considered an "right wing extremist" And you know what, Mikey? A good rule of thumb is this: Anyone who dares stand in the way of the Progressive Left's continuing, incessant, unrelenting efforts to turn this country into another failed socialist workers paradise, is ALWAYS targeted by those self-same progressives as a "right wing extremist." You statement reminded me of something Barry Goldwater said: "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." Another great read. From Forbes I'm sure. I could come up with a ton of links to "great reads" about what Hillary Clinton says about big banks and Wall Street and who's funding her campaign, but I won't waste the bits 'n bytes on it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 14:16:32 GMT -6
Brietbart was a liar. The proof is everywhere.
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Post by Raymond306 on Aug 18, 2016 15:09:28 GMT -6
Brietbart was a liar. The proof is everywhere. Why of course. Every lefty knows that for crying out loud. Now to change the subject, maybe, here's an observation I've realized over the years while being involved in online discussion forums. Any time anyone says, "It's common knowledge that (fill in the blank) " or "Everyone knows that (fill in the blank) " you can bet the farm whatever you read in "the blank" is going to be the biggest, whopping lie you ever read in your life.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 15:10:33 GMT -6
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Post by chrunch on Aug 18, 2016 17:03:20 GMT -6
Mik, you seem to be able to bring up the left wing talking points about Donald Trump with ease. But we haven't heard anything positive about the candidate you support.
So, where is your head at in this up coming election. Tell us who you like and why.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:08:58 GMT -6
I liked sanders. He wasn't the outsider he claimed to be but I liked his policies. How can you be a political outsider when you served for 35 years? I'd rather see Hilary than a 75 year old with a 7 year olds temper and intelligence. Maybe you guys don't get it because you didn't grow up around here but he's always been in trouble and he's always been a dick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:23:15 GMT -6
This just in the US will no longer use privately funded prisons! I believe this is a great thing.
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Post by jab1362 on Aug 18, 2016 17:28:54 GMT -6
So it's okay to add five years to Trumps age? I doubt she will make it to 75 with her health issues, only one more reason not to vote for her. I agree Bernie would have been a much better choice. I actually voted for him in our primary, we can cross over in my state. I lived in VT when he was the mayor of Burlington and have met him and his wife Jane several times. A good man who means what he says and is a true believer in the social democrat style of government. As close to an honest politician you will ever meet. He is an outsider in Washington, and if it wasn't rigged I believe he would have beaten HRC.
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Post by jab1362 on Aug 18, 2016 18:01:13 GMT -6
Everyone of us should listen to Trumps speech from Charlotte,NC tonight.
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Post by chrunch on Aug 18, 2016 18:05:28 GMT -6
So mik, Hiliary's lies don't bother you? Even her lying right to the faces of the mourning Benghazi family members, you find that acceptable?
I don't see how you can support someone who lies, and then lies about the lies, and then lies about not lying.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 18:09:10 GMT -6
Trump has never lied or flip flopped?? You're gonna go with that cap? Please don't make me get the video that shows 10,000,000,000 trump flip flops and lies. Please
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Post by jab1362 on Aug 18, 2016 18:12:04 GMT -6
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